Just turned on the TV, tuned into ESPN and guess what? College Gameday is live from Frank's darling Boise St. The fans are packed and the gameday crew is talking their usual mush. Of course, Herbstreit, Fowler, and Howard are "homers" and all a gush with Boise St. Every time they open their mouths the Boise fans are going wild like the teenage girls did for the Beatles. (sorry Frank and Mass, you'll have to look in your history books for that reference)
I'm SICK OF IT! Yes, my Irish have a tough game AGAIN vs the Stanford Cardinal today and quite frankly I don't like their chances. So there, no comments. But give me a break! I don't look for Boise to lose tonight. They haven't really had a game since opening night against what has turned out to be a very poor Va Tech team. They haven't had a rough game for any player to get bruised or injured. They're rested and hav had 3 weeks to prepare. (yes I know they've played over the last 3 weeks, but really how much preparation was needed for Wyoming which is 1-2 and the win was a 28-20 win over Southern Utah. By the way, Wyoming was one of those "tough" out of conference games Boise St scheduled. God, isn't it bad enough to play in an extremely weak conference AND schedule extremely weak out of conference foes? Don't tell me no one will play them. Even if Oklahoma, Bama, etc... won't schedule as Frank says, I'm sure there's at least some tougher out of conference team besides Wyoming willing to play!)
Ok, so here we are with the supposed only other tough games for Boise this year, Oregon St. (I wish ND was playing Oregon St instead of Stanford today! Matter of fact, I wish the Irish could have played Va Tech and Wyoming and OSU for the first 3 games rather than Purdue, Michigan, Michigan St and now Stanford)
I'm sure Boise will win tonight. Will continue the hype for a BCS champ game. I've never been a 'Bama or Ohio St fan, but quite frankly I hope they both go undefeated and play for the Championship while Boise gets to look from the outside in.
(oh by the way, Boise gets to play New Mexico St next week.....shutter with the fear!)
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Let's look at Boise State's in-conference schedule for a minute. New Mexico St., San Jose St., Louisiana Tech., Hawaii, Idaho, Fresno St., Utah St., and Nevada. Out of conference games are VT(#10), Wyoming, Oregon St.(#24), and Toledo.
ReplyDeleteNow lets look at THEE Ohio State University's schedule, the team ranked 2nd in the country. In-conference games include Illinois, Indiana, Perdue, Wisconsin(#11), Minnesota, Penn State(#23), Iowa(#18), and Michigan(#21). Out of conference games are Miami(#13), Ohio, Marshall, and Eastern Michigan.
I already know what you are going to say. Ohio State plays in the Big Ten, a tougher conference against more ranked teams. BS plays in a weak conference against weaker competition and no ranked teams in their conference. But if you look at the above schedules, Ohio State has the same weak ass out of conference schedule... Like Boise State. BS scheduled one more out of conference team that is/was ranked than Ohio State did.
Do I think BS is the 3rd best team in the country? I don't know, maybe. Sports writers across the land think so and that's why they started the season #3 and still are #3. I don't think they take into account who they play when they rank them in the preseason.
I don't think you can penalize a team for their schedule when they are at the mercy of the teams in their own conference. If the WAC had 5 ranked teams in it, would this be an issue? Is fair that Ohio State plays in the Big Ten which has several ranked teams? Is it fair that Ohio State gets to schedule scrubs for their out of conference games?
I'm not disagreeing with you Fritz, I'm just saying the top teams schedule punks for out of conference games as well. Fortunately for them they have better conference foes to boast their credibility.
I do know one thing for sure. The BCS computers will certainly make sure BS does not play for the national championship. I think that if Ohio State and/or Alabama lose 1 early, then run the table, the computers will bump them over an undefeated BS.
And as far as ND is concerned... Why is their AD still scheduling games like they are the 1988 team? Maybe a weaker schedule would equal more wins and increased confidence in South Bend. I guarantee that if ND was in the WAC and went undefeated, the computer and voters would find a way to have them playing for the National Championship... because they are NOTRE DAME!!! Sing her glory and sound her fame.
Bama gets everything they want from Arkansas today and possibly their 1st loss.
OSU runs the table until they meet Michigan and the Robinson kid destroys them.
Take That!!!
commish... i see where you are begging someone to get in on this. i have not "blogged" in a while so im a little more than ready to speak my mind. i am not a band wagon jumper and do not follow a particular college team more so than another, but i do think there needs to be a little more respect given to the broncos than a "i hope they win out to "f" up the bcs rankings". that seems to be the consensus of the general population. my main point in all of this is that is not any fault of boise to be chastised b/c the media has put them on a pedestal. if any one of you were involved in scheduling wouldn't you want to play them to prove a point?!?!?? everyone has looked at boise's schedule, and my question is why not look at some the "BEST" team's schedules??
ReplyDeletei only picked these teams b/c some of you i know on the blog follow these teams and will know more about them than i will. i looked up these factoids so if they are wrong i am sorry and apologize.
lets ease into this with a neutral team, penn state... youngstown state, kent state, and temple who combined will probably not win 10 games this year. penn state is another team hanging onto legacy, and legacy gentlemen, does not win. you mean to tell me they could not fit boise in there??!??? they did however schedule the most ranked opponents of the 4 i picked to review...(1)bama, (2)ohio st, (18)iowa, (21)mich, (25)mich st
fritzy youre up now... again legacy is not winning any games here. a college steeped in tradition has not been good since 1992, 18 f-in years ago. bob davie ran that program in the ground and it hasnt been able to get out since. they're weakest opponents are west mich, tulsa, and army. no barn-burning games there. i know they would never drop army, its tradition. again, nowhere to fit boise???!??? they did schedule some tougher ranked opponents, but again noone in the top 10. (13)utah, (16)stanford, (20)usc. independant conference, can they play/schedule whomever they want???????
miami and fla st are in one of the tougher conferences in college sports, acc. only reason i say that is b/c of the other major sports, rivalry spills over. there is always a lot of emotion involved in these games coming from the campus in general. they play duke,
fl a&m, and usf. prior to 3 years ago usf sucked. they only play 1 ranked opponent, (2)ohio st. so again there is room for boise!!!!!!
fla st plays byu and samford who are a combined score of 93 - 16, not too tough. it would be hard to fit boise into acc schools schedules, but the opportunity is there. ranked ooponents... (9)florida, (10)oklahoma, (19)miami. i say stop bustin boise's balls and get on some of these colleges to schedule them.
i dont see how a team can be ridiculed for playing and beating everyone in their conference and then playing in bowl games without why. someone said the beat oklahoma on a trick play in a bowl game. so what's the problem?? isnt the best supposed to be able to able to stop a trick play?!??!? here's one for bama coach nick "i'll only stay/play if i can win" saban. he has enough pull at bama that if he wanted he could have scheduled them for sometime this year. saban is a punk "i'll never leave miami its my home" same thing he said in louisiana.
again let me restate that i am not a fan of any particular college team. i am not picking on any one team, i believe there is room for boise to play a lot of those teams. and dont think they wouldnt jump at the chance b/c it means money for them. if you end up with a few undefeated teams they should be allowed to play for #1. dont know how that would occur but until they are given the chance noone will know!
in the infamous words of neutron marvel and that guy they call the nature boy...
"TO BE THA BEST YOU GOTTA BEAT THA BEST"
damn buck you beat me to the post...
ReplyDeletei didnt realize you had posted ths before me
sorry but it does kinda strengthen both threads
Rollin - I guess great minds think alike. We haven't heard from you in a while. I guess you have been building up all the inner intelligence and had to release some pressure?
ReplyDeleteThink what you want but the BCS conference's top teams DO NOT want to play Boise State. Maybe this year would be a different story now that they are ranked 3rd and are not sneaking up on anyone anymore. But the past several years the top teams have wanted no part of Boise State. They are giant killers!
Sure they may not be the best on paper or have the 5 star recruits, but they win and give the Big Boys fits when they play them.
As far as schedules go, they are made several years in advance. When Saban, Joe Pa, Bowden, Shannon, were making schedules 2 or 3 years ago they didn't want any parts of Boise State. These coaches know their teams are better 9 times out of 10 but it's that one game that matters.
If they aren't at their best, BS is a team that will sneak up on you and knock you out.
By the way.... Why didn't Notre Dame schedule them. And Fritz... I don't think you would want Oregon State over Stanford. ND's defense has no one to contain the Rodgers brothers for OSU. Maybe SaMford?????
And just to be clear, I don't think Boise State is the best team in the country but definitely a top 10 team. And frankly it won't hurt my feelings if they don't play for a national championship. If we had a playoff system then we could really see their worth but for now we have to deal with a computer controlling the out come of college football.
Dave Marvel said that???
Got back from Dover. My daughter & I spent the day @ the races. Great time! I kept it to pepsi/water, but seeing everyone else drinking cold beer in a hot grandstand was terrible. I wanted to taste the cold freshness of pilsner ale. Some of that fat can of brew!
ReplyDeleteI'll hit this in stages. One for The Buck. One for the returning Keep It Rollin.
The Buck:..u mention "if the WAC had 5 ranked teams", wud it be an issue"...well, if everytime it rained it wud rain gasoline I wud just have a funnel sticking out of my car to fill up! If my asshole wud cut off turds like my dog I'd hav no need for toilet paper! If my cock was...well u get it...There are no ifs. Boise plays in a weak conference & schedules weak out of conf. foes. like it or not that's the way it is. The media, who like a story, ranked them 3rd, but we have no way of knowing if they're 3rd best cuz their strength of schedule index is one of the lowest in the country! Ah, we can't help who they have to play BS is BS. Boise doesn't want to go on the road to the "horsehoe" at Ohio St., "swamp" in Florida, "death valley on a saturday night in LSU, the "coliseum vs USC. They claim no one will play them, but that's crap! People will play them, but fact is Boise wants to schedule a "home & home". (meaning they play say Ohio St. one year in Ohio & the next back in Boise) Well, guess what? nobody wants to go to low rent Boise. There's no $$ in playing in Boise. Ohio St. for example, makes a bigger payday playing @ home selling 90,000 tickets/concessions playing the likes of Eastern Michigan then the payout playing in Boise. Boise then has a built in excuse then why no one will play them. Drop the required "home & home" requirement & I guarantee u have big boys willing to schedule at home. Not fair? Well, the great Dave Marvel once told me "If you want to be the best, you got to beat the best". Meaning until u prove it, u might have to spend a few years playing the big boys on their turf. Beat em enough times, then u can start requiring them to come to ur house!
KEEP:..Penn St. Everyone wants to talk about the # of Joe Pa's win total, but let's back out the number of wins against the likes of Temple, BROWN, Youngstown St., Rutgers (before the current coaches took over)& Colgate. Exactly 45 games scheduled against these toughees since Jo took over.
I appreciate u recognizing Notre Dame's tough times of late, but let's not talk about if they have room for Boise. Year in & out they play one of the tougher schedules in the country. This year in this order they play Purdue, Michigan, Mich St. Stanford, Boston College, Pitt, Western Mich., Navy, Tulsa, Utah, Army & USC. 5 teams ranked in the top 25! & this year's schedule was ridiculed as by being one of their weakest in years! ND's problem now is that Weiss recruited & coached offense & didn't realize that u gotta play D sometime. So far I like Coach Kelly, but he's got a lot to do recruiting on the defense side of the ball.
Miami has gone to Ohio St & Pitt (Pitt's not having a good year, but were in the pre-season top 25) They also play Fla St. That's 3 tough out of conference games & 2 were at the other's house. Again, Boise has not wanted to travel to the likes of Ohio St. Fla St., etc...
I'll give u Samford as a cupcake for Florida St., but com'on...they play at Miami, at Oklahome, & home with Florida. That out of conference schedule is tougher than their ACC schedule!
Yes, Nick Saban is a punk! He left Michigan St in shambles, left LSU when they could have been a dynasty, left the Miami Dolphins in shambles & lied every step of the way. Watch out 'Bama, cuz when some1 with more $ comes calling, he'll lie to u too!
Buck, after today's shalacking, I don't want Stanford on ND's schedule either!
commish i'll finish that statement for you. if your cock... was 3 inched longer your balls wouldn't get wet when you took a piss.
ReplyDeletethe point i was trying to make is that its easy for ANYONE to say they wont play boise for the money reason. i was stating that there is room for boise on the schedule, and honestly if money is involved why shouldnt they benefit from it as well?? by playing a home and home. boise has done their job in their conference and so why should they be punished?
no doubt notre dame plays a tougher schedule than most, but they play western kentucky this year who got beat by a wac or mountain west conference team last night by 40 points. that should not be a real tough game for the irish
i knew nut marvel said that...
Suprise, suprise the commish is beating a dead horse again. I didnt even read past the first patagraph. Lets complain about BS. Maybe when I get back to work tomorrow I should bring you a box of tissues. Maybe, just maybe, you should start complaing about BS when Notre Dame actually becomes relevant again.
ReplyDeleteUh Oh!!!!! The newly released polls have Nevada ranked at #25 in the country. By the way, Nevada is a WAC school from the "weak ass" WAC conference. 4-0 with very convincing wins over Cal (Pac 10), BYU and Colorado State (both of the Mountain West). Have the WAC teams been reading our BLOG???
ReplyDeleteIn regards to the illustrious Nut Marvel... I vividly remember starting my coaching career with Coach Wells and Coach Marvel. I vividly remember SC being on the rise but had not quite reached the era where we had the series of playoff runs. I vividly remember the times when our schedules were not complete and we needed to still fill some slots for out of conference games. I vividly remember Matt Donovan (AD at the time) coming in and telling Coach Wells, and the staff, that Newark had called and was very interested in filling one of these slots and even offered to travel to Georgetown to play us. I vividly remember Coach Marvel's comment to AD Donovan's news. It went something like this.... "ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???" Needless to say, Coach Marvel wasn't to keen on the idea playing Newark who at that time was like 60-0 and won multiple, consecutive state championships. Instead we opted to play MD teams such as WiHi and James M Bennett. "To be the best you got to beat the best"????? It took a few years. SC teams and talent drastically improved. Then we scheduled our first Big Boy team (St Marks).
I guess I will get to my point now. You say BS should travel to the Big Boys' Houses and if not they are scared. Why??? They are the 3rd ranked team in the country. Teams should go to their house and see if "to be the best you got to beat the best."
Why do you think Newark was chomping at the bit to travel to SC to play us. Because they new we were a solid D1 team, that they could beat, and get playoff points.
If Bama, OSU, Florida, Texas, LSU (whoever) think they are so much better than BS, and play in such stronger conferences, then why aren't they lining up to go to #3 BS house and play them. One would think that if one of the aforementioned teams went to BS and beat the #3 team in the country in their house, then the team would get a huge boost in the rankings and BCS computer.
This leads me to believe that the aforementioned teams have some idea that BS (no matter their conference foes) is for real and they don't want to go to BS, lose, and shit on their championship hopes. "To be the best you got to beat the best"?????
Come on Bama, let's go OSU... jump on a plane to Boise and see what you got Big Boys.
(The above comments by this author are intended for the purpose of rebutting previous posts and are solely intended to portray an alternate point of view. They are in no way the subjective views of the author or the author's belief or disbelief in Boise State.)
And I know you don't like "IFs" Commissioner Fritz, but IF Notre Dame was ranked #3 (hypothetically speaking of course) what would we be saying about their conference? Army????? Navy???? I won't deny ND plays a decent schedule but at the start of the season (preseason rankings) ND only had 2 ranked teams on their schedule (USC #14, Pitt #15). Pitt has since dropped out and yes... Utah and Stanford have since entered the rankings. Also included are the likes of Western Michigan, Army, Navy, and Tulsa.
Western Michigan plays in the Mighty Mid-American conference and Tulsa in the Mighty Conference USA. #13 Utah comes from the Mountain West conference which includes BYU and Colorado State. As mentioned in my first paragraph, BYU and Colorado State were convincingly beat by Nevada (of the weak ass WAC). So what does that say for #13 Utah and their conference. Did I mention ND plays Utah??
And as far as "IF" it rained gasoline.... I would by some old tankers and fill em up. Who rules Bartertown???? The Buck rules Bartertown!!!
the way ND's schedule is starting to shake out they may only win 2 or 3 games this year...
ReplyDeletei wanted to make sure we were all clear that when i said, "to be the best you have to beat the best", i was referring to bama, ohio st, etc. to play and beat boise b/c they are shaping up to be one of the best